Compare how Hobbes and Augustine Think The Condition of War Arises and Defend One
Author\'s Account of \'ordinary\' Morality As An Antedote For It

Augustine believes that the condition of war arises when the perfectly
ordered and harmonious enjoyment of God is disrupted (The City of God, 690)
whereas Hobbes believes that the original state of nature is a condition of
constant war, which rational and self-motivated people want to end.

Augustine argues that peace is more than the absence of hostilities - it
is a state of harmony that makes possible the full functioning of human beings.
Full functioning comes from the four internal virtues (courage, justice,
temperance, and prudence) that we must exercise to achieve good human morality.
Human morality, by and of its self, will not allow us humans to travel to our
moral destination. It is only an exercise of the four virtues so that we as
humans can achieve some sort of peace on our own through God\'s saving grace.

To Augustine, humans seek an object of love they can\'t lose. The problem
with that to humans is that humans can\'t provide that to other humans completely.
Only God can and that in turn causes hostility among humans. The love of God,
then, is the only way humans can completely satisfy all four virtues and have
eternal peace. Eternal peace is where faith, love, and hope are to be enjoyed,
such as in The City of God.

In Book XIX, Augustinian social theory summarizes the principle of
ordered harmony. This theory finds perfection in a mutual society that believes
in God. Believing in God, though, lends a problem in the simple rule of justice:
how do we give each other their due? Seemingly, war or hostility would not be a
part of a Christian\'s life on earth. Augustine counters by indicating that war
may be and is waged by God\'s commandment. To Augustine, waging war out of
obedience to God is very different than to wage war for personal gain. But even
wars caused by unselfish humans can be profitable to the faithful through
patience and discipline to God. Augustine seems to believe that war is waged so
that peace may be obtained. Since we all seek peace, war, then, can be
obligatory when evil has control.

Hobbes, on the other hand, believes that war is a natural condition of
mankind. Although Hobbes and Augustine seem to both believe that there needs
to be one source of law (Augustine, God and Hobbes, Social Contracts), Hobbes
takes off to suggest that we are motivated by selfish self interests and because
of that, we are better off living in a world of moral rules. Without there rules
we are at the mercy of other people\'s self - interest. War becomes the need to
gain control of our own environments when others try to exploit us.

These self - interests are Hobbe\'s way of saying that all of our actions
are a product of our own beliefs. We believe we are more superior than anyone
else other than God and this natural passion brings in the first law of nature
according to Hobbes: Liberty of man to reason. We all wish to reason for
ourselves and we expect others to understand this as they want the same.
Therefore, war comes from the lack of others respecting your feelings, to some

The second law of nature, where we should lay down our liberty when
others do as well, brings out a sense of unity between us. If we give up our
rights to each other then we will all be happy and that leads to peace. The
third law of nature is to do to others as they do you. Seemingly this authorizes,
even demands, war when war is waged against you. But unless there is a betrayal,
war would be against the law of nature.

The fourth law of nature, to show gratitude to others who benefit you,
is a take off of the love thy neighbor theme, it seems. It follows that if I
help you in war then you have benefited me and I should benefit you in return
for a mutal defence. Preservation is a self - interest and we all desire that.

Overall, I believe that Hobbe\'s theory cast closer to Lord of the Flies
than Augustine\'s. The way the boys separate into groups (ie: hunters and the
peaceful) shows a return to the basics of life. The boys chose to go with the
hunters out of fear or that not going with them (knowing a